Streeting suggests hate speech laws should be revised, saying they have had ‘unintended consequences’
At the Downing Street lobby briefing yesterday the PM’s spokesperson was reluctant to comment directly on the arrest of Graham Linehan. But he did say that Keir Starmer thought the police should be focusing on “antisocial behaviour, shoplifting, street crime, as well as reducing serious violent crimes like knife crime and violence against women”. The Daily Telegraph has interepreted that as an attack on the Met.
Wes Streeting, the health secretary, was on the media round this morning and in some respects he adopted the same line. Asked about the arrest, he told Times Radio:
I think the prime minister and the home secretary have been very clear that with the law and order challenges we’ve got in our country, we want to see people being kept safe by policing streets, not just policing tweets.
But Streeting also made a different argument, pointing out that the police were only enforcing laws passed by parliament and that, if MPs felt their actions were excessive, they needed to change the law. He told Times Radio:
One thing I would say, because it’s always easy for people to criticise the police, the police enforce the laws of the land that we as legislators provide. So if we’re not getting the balance right then that’s something that we all have to look at and consider … If the police are enforcing things that we think are a waste of time or a distraction from more important things, that’s on us to sort out.
On the Today programme, about an hour later, Streeting went even further, implying that hate speech laws were too strict. He said they had “unintended consequences” and that MPs were “quite anxious” about how they were being enforced.
He told the programme:
I’m very glad that we live in a country where we come down like a tonne of bricks on racism and discrimination. That is the right thing to do … There have always been legitimate boundaries when it comes to hate speech, which is about protecting others from harm.
Sometimes those boundaries and those lines are blurred, and we are talking shades of grey, rather than black and white. That’s why this is complicated. It’s complicated for legislators, and it is hard for the police sometimes, because they they have to apply the law as it is written, not the law as sometimes it was intended.
And honestly, this is why sometimes when we have debates in parliament, it can be quite tricky when campaigners are saying vote for this clause or that clause, because often people legislate with good intentions, but they also have to be mindful of unintended consequences.
And I think we are all, let’s be honest, quite anxious about some of the cases we’ve seen in the media, or proceed through the courts, of what people have said online where you think, was that really what parliament intended when they passed these laws?
Streeting may have been referring to the Lucy Connolly case, which Nigel Farage is expected to discuss when he testifies on Capitol Hill later.
It was not clear from Streeting’s interview whether the health secretary was reflecting concerns felt more widely in government, or whether he was just freelancing. Quite possibly it was the latter. Streeting is much more inclined than other ministers to actually answer questions in interviews, and say what he thinks. Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper (who as home secretary, unlike Streeting, is actually responsible for law and order policy) have not talked about the need to revise hate speech laws.
But Streeting also has a good feel for where the political debate is heading. If ministers were not thinking about revising hate speech laws, they might be a bit more inclined to have that debate now.
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Starmer faces Badenoch at PMQs
Kemi Badenoch is probably hastily redrafting her PMQs script in the light of Angela Rayner’s statement about underpaying her stamp duty. She has got less than half an hour to craft the right questions. And she will probably want to ask about the economy, and hate speech laws, too.
Here is the list of MPs down to ask a question.
Reeves says economy ‘not working well enough for working people’
Rachel Reeves, the chancellor, has said the economy is “not working well enough for working people”. She made the comment in a video she posted on social media, after the Treasury announced that the budget will take place on Wednesday 26 November.
Reeves said:
Britain’s economy isn’t broken. But I know it’s not working well enough for working people.
Bills are high. Getting ahead feels tougher. You put more in, get less out. That has to change.
Reeves said “fixing the foundations” has been her mission for the past year, and seh cited government action including trade deals with the US, India and the EU and making a start on tearing up planning rules to reach the target to build 1.5m homes. She went on:
But I’m not satisfied. There’s more to do. Cost-of-living pressures are still real.
We must bring inflation and borrowing costs down by keeping a tight grip on day-to-day spending through our non-negotiable fiscal rules. It’s only by doing this can we afford to do the things we want to do.
If renewal is our mission and growth is our challenge, investment and reform are our tools. The tools to building an economy that works for you – and rewards you. More pounds in your pocket. An NHS there when you need it. Opportunity for all.
Those are my priorities. The priorities of the British people. And it is what I am determined to deliver.
Angela Rayner admits underpaying stamp duty on £800,000 seaside flat
Angela Rayner has admitted that she underpaid stamp duty on her £800,000 seaside flat, after coming under intense pressure to be more transparent about her property arrangements, Pippa Crerar reports.
Majority of Labour party members would back digital ID card scheme, poll suggests
And the Daily Mail is reporting that Keir Starmer is exploring the case for digital ID cards, as a means of making it harder for migrants who entered the UK illegally to work. In his story Jason Groves reports:
Downing Street confirmed ministers are examining proposals for a digital ID scheme 15 years after the idea was abandoned following an outcry about the impact on civil liberties.
Under one option, anyone applying for a new job would be required to produce their digital ID to demonstrate that they have the right to live and work in the UK.
Similar provisions could also be introduced for those moving to new accommodation, making a benefit claim or accessing public services.
This morning LabourList has released the results of a poll suggesting a majority of Labour party members would back a move of this kind. In his write-up, Daniel Green says:
The poll, conducted by Survation, found that 57% of members surveyed want to see the government introduce such a scheme, while 30% said the government should not roll out digital ID cards.
Members who joined the party before 2010 were most likely to support the policy (65% in favour with 23% opposed), while those who have been members since 2015 were the most against (45% in favour with 38% opposed).
Almost three-quarters (74%) of those who backed Keir Starmer in the 2020 leadership election supported digital IDs (with 16% against), while almost two-thirds (62%) of those who backed Rebecca Long-Bailey were opposed, while one in five (20%) were in favour.
Keir Starmer has scrapped the No 10 unit that was in charge of overseeing his “five missions”, Steven Swinford and Chris Smyth report in the Times. In their story they say:
Upon entering government, Starmer established a Mission Delivery Unit in the Cabinet Office to implement his five key priorities. It was led by one of the most senior civil servants in Whitehall, Clara Swinson, and contained dozens of officials.
However, Starmer distanced himself from the missions last year when he announced his “Plan for Change”, which included six “milestones” that were designed to focus on more tangible voter concerns.
The latest reset has streamlined Starmer’s approach further. No 10 said it is now focused on three main priorities — making people better off, improving the NHS and security of borders and communities …
The Mission Delivery Unit has been scrapped and its staff will be brought into Downing Street under a new delivery unit overseen by Darren Jones, who has been appointed to a new role of chief secretary to the prime minister.
Lib Dems urge Badenoch to expel Liz Truss from Tory party after she calls for Trump-style ‘revolution’ in UK
The Liberal Democrats have urged Kemi Badenoch to expel Liz Truss from the Conservative party after the former PM called for a Trump-style “revolution” in the UK.
In an interview with Sky’s Wilfred Frost for his Master Investor podcast, Truss said:
There’s no doubt we’ve lost our way. But I think what is happening now in Britain – the people are now realizing how bad the situation is, and I think there is going to be massive pressure for institutional change in this country, and what we need [is similar] to Trump delivering the revolution in the US. That is what we need, and I think that will happen.
In response, Daisy Cooper, the Lib Dem deputy leader, said:
We already know what a Liz Truss revolution looks like, and people are still paying for it every month in their mortgages.
We should be taking no lectures on what our country needs from a former PM who crashed the economy in 44 days, leaving families paying the price in the middle of a cost of living crisis.
Kemi Badenoch should show some leadership and revoke Truss’s membership from the Conservative party for wanting to turn Britain into a Trump tribute act.
Under-16s in England to be banned from buying energy drinks
Under-16s in England will be banned from buying energy drinks such as Red Bull and Monster because they fuel obesity, cause sleep problems and leave them unable to concentrate, Denis Campbell reports.
Here is the press release on this from the Department of Health and Social Care.
Talking about the proposal on BBC Breakfast this morning, Wes Streeting, the health secretary, said one high caffeine energy drink can contain as much sugar as four cans of Coke. He went on:
You can see the impact on the health, the concentration, the learning, and that is why we are acting.
And … to make sure that this works not just in principle but in practice, we’re doing a short, sharp, 12-week consultation with businesses, learning from those retailers that are already doing it about how it’s working in practice, so that we can expand to all retailers doing this with them, rather than to them …
We promised to do this by the end of this parliament, but in practice, this will come in a lot sooner.
Streeting suggests hate speech laws should be revised, saying they have had ‘unintended consequences’
At the Downing Street lobby briefing yesterday the PM’s spokesperson was reluctant to comment directly on the arrest of Graham Linehan. But he did say that Keir Starmer thought the police should be focusing on “antisocial behaviour, shoplifting, street crime, as well as reducing serious violent crimes like knife crime and violence against women”. The Daily Telegraph has interepreted that as an attack on the Met.
Wes Streeting, the health secretary, was on the media round this morning and in some respects he adopted the same line. Asked about the arrest, he told Times Radio:
I think the prime minister and the home secretary have been very clear that with the law and order challenges we’ve got in our country, we want to see people being kept safe by policing streets, not just policing tweets.
But Streeting also made a different argument, pointing out that the police were only enforcing laws passed by parliament and that, if MPs felt their actions were excessive, they needed to change the law. He told Times Radio:
One thing I would say, because it’s always easy for people to criticise the police, the police enforce the laws of the land that we as legislators provide. So if we’re not getting the balance right then that’s something that we all have to look at and consider … If the police are enforcing things that we think are a waste of time or a distraction from more important things, that’s on us to sort out.
On the Today programme, about an hour later, Streeting went even further, implying that hate speech laws were too strict. He said they had “unintended consequences” and that MPs were “quite anxious” about how they were being enforced.
He told the programme:
I’m very glad that we live in a country where we come down like a tonne of bricks on racism and discrimination. That is the right thing to do … There have always been legitimate boundaries when it comes to hate speech, which is about protecting others from harm.
Sometimes those boundaries and those lines are blurred, and we are talking shades of grey, rather than black and white. That’s why this is complicated. It’s complicated for legislators, and it is hard for the police sometimes, because they they have to apply the law as it is written, not the law as sometimes it was intended.
And honestly, this is why sometimes when we have debates in parliament, it can be quite tricky when campaigners are saying vote for this clause or that clause, because often people legislate with good intentions, but they also have to be mindful of unintended consequences.
And I think we are all, let’s be honest, quite anxious about some of the cases we’ve seen in the media, or proceed through the courts, of what people have said online where you think, was that really what parliament intended when they passed these laws?
Streeting may have been referring to the Lucy Connolly case, which Nigel Farage is expected to discuss when he testifies on Capitol Hill later.
It was not clear from Streeting’s interview whether the health secretary was reflecting concerns felt more widely in government, or whether he was just freelancing. Quite possibly it was the latter. Streeting is much more inclined than other ministers to actually answer questions in interviews, and say what he thinks. Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper (who as home secretary, unlike Streeting, is actually responsible for law and order policy) have not talked about the need to revise hate speech laws.
But Streeting also has a good feel for where the political debate is heading. If ministers were not thinking about revising hate speech laws, they might be a bit more inclined to have that debate now.
Autumn budget to take place on 26 November, Treasury announces

Richard Partington
Richard Partington is the Guardian’s senior economics correspondent.
Rachel Reeves’s autumn budget will take place on 26 November, the Treasury has announced, amid mounting speculation over tax increases.
With the government under pressure on the economy, the chancellor has previously said measures designed to reboot growth would form the basis of her highly anticipated tax and spending plans.
The late November budget date will give Reeves time to prepare the ground for potential tax changes, raising the prospect of a high-stakes party conference season as Labour heads to Liverpool at the end of September.
Reeves is understood to have been exploring several revenue-raising measures over the summer months amid concern that rising borrowing costs, a sluggish growth outlook, higher inflation and welfare U-turns could expose a shortfall in the government finances worth up to £40bn.
The chancellor and the prime minister have, however, committed to sticking to Labour’s manifesto promise not to raise taxes on “working people”, including through income tax, national insurance and VAT.
Reeves has come under pressure from leftwing Labour MPs and campaigners to consider introducing a wealth tax. While the chancellor has privately ruled out such a step, she has been exploring options for raising more money from wealthier taxpayers, including changes to capital gains tax, as well as inheritance and property levies.
Announcing the date of the budget, the Treasury said Reeves had commissioned the Office for Budget Responsibility to prepare forecasts for the economy and public finances. The chancellor must give the independent watchdog 10 weeks’ notice.
There are hopes in the Treasury that news from Britain’s economy could improve before budget day, helping the chancellor to strike a more upbeat tone after a difficult first year in power for Labour.
Reeves could benefit from updated International Monetary Fund forecasts at its annual meeting in Washington in mid-October.
Nigel Farage to testify about Online Safety Act at US House of Representatives
Good morning. It is the first PMQs since July, and with the government set to announce the date of the budget today (Wednesday 26 November, if HuffPost UK is right), you would expect Keir Starmer and Kemi Badenoch to get stuck into a debate about the economy, and taxation.
But it might end up as a free speech day at Westminster, as a result of the conflation of two related issues.
First, Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, is in Washington where he is giving evidence to the House judiciary committee on “Europe’s Threat to American Speech and Innovation”. The committee wants to talk about the Online Safety Act, which is opposed by American tech companies who fear it will lead to them facing excessive fines, or even jail sentences, for not complying with UK content regulations deemed unnecessarily strict in the US.
And, second, the arrest yesterday of Graham Linehan, the Irish comedy writer, by five police officers at Heathrow over anti-trans posts on social media has reignited the debate about hate speech laws in the UK, and whether they are being enforced too rigorously by the police.
Linehan was arrested on suspicion of inciting violence – which is nothing to do with the Online Safety Act – but the two issues are bound to be linked, not least by Farage.
According to a report by Harry Cole in the Sun, in written evidence to the House judiciary committee ahead of today’s hearing Farage argued that Britain is now subject to an “illiberal and authoritarian censorship regime”. Farage said:
On the question of civil liberties, Britain has, unfortunately, now lost her way.
I will do my part, as a participant in UK democracy, to help our country find its way back to the traditional freedoms which have long bound together our two countries in friendship. In the meantime, Congress should draw bright lines: British free speech rules, applicable to Britons, are made in Britain, and American speech rules, applicable to Americans, are made in America.
Somewhere on this planet of ours, innovators must remain free to build the next generation of platforms without being hamstrung by illiberal and authoritarian censorship regimes that are alien to both American and traditionally British values. Right now, that place is America. Those of us in the UK will do what we can to make Britain such a place as well.
Cole says Farage has also suggested that the US should use “diplomacy and trade” (ie, the threat of sanctions) to resist UK and EU laws that threaten American tech companies. This could open Farage up to the charge of acting against the national interest, but it is not clear yet how far he will push this in the hearing.
Obviously, if the House judiciary committtee is really worried about threats to “American speech”, you could argue that it would do better investigating a White House administration that deports students who criticise Israel, insists on checking people’s social media posts before it allows them into the country, uses bogus legal challenges to extort money from media organisations that have criticised the president and bans journalists from the press pool for calling the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico. But the Republican-led committee does not seem too bothered about all that.
And, if Reform UK is serious about free speech, it would be nice to hear Farage asked about Reform-led Nottinghamshire county council refusing to talk to the Nottingham Post because of its critical media coverage. That is not likely to be on the agenda in Washington either. But it may get a mention at PMQs.
Here is the agenda for the day.
10.30am: Shabana Mahmood, the justice secretary, gives evidence to the Lords constitution committee on the rule of law.
Noon: Keir Starmer faces Kemi Badenoch at PMQs.
Afternoon: John Swinney, Scotland’s first minister, makes a statement to MSPs at Holyrood about Gaza.
Afternoon: Stamer has a meeting with his Spanish counterpart, Pedro Sánchez, in Downing Street.
3pm: Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, gives evidence to the House of Representative’s judiciary committee in Washington about freedom of speech in the UK.
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